Friday, February 18, 2011

eve

so i think i've finally found a game that i play often enough that i will say that it could be addicting, if there wasn't so much waiting involved in playing the game. i mean... look at how many jumps it will take to make a round trip in picking up an item i just bought, a ship i need, and then getting it all back to where i need it. i mean, i guess sure, this is to help keep the realism of the distance i'm traveling (several hundred thousand AU's per jump) but come on.. it IS a game. those 18 jumps will probably take me about half an hour to complete.

and don't even get me started on the time i have to wait to get a skill trained up to a respectable level. (if not several days than at least most of a day). i've heard players some players say that if i trained nothing but the bare minimum skills needed, it can take up to a year to be allowed to sit on a super carrier. and when i say minimum i mean minimum. sitting in the ship doesn't mean that i know how to make it fly very fast at all, or even fire it's weapons. that could be another half year to get to that point.

all that being said, it really is an awesome game. the learning curve never seems to settle. if anything it just get higher. the more i think i know the more amazed i am when someone introduces something completely new to me. an aspect i had no idea existed. just a couple weeks ago someone introduced to me the art of exploring. sending probes out and finding things that arn't exactly on the map. things like wormholes. or pirate hideouts, or rouge AI drones. the list goes on.



i think this is a surprisingly accurate graph on how the learning curve works compared to most of the other big massive multi-player online (MMO) games. i know it says gaming skill but just imagine it says 'amount learned'.


that part where it actually has you go back in time after that huge increase in knowledge is the part where you suddenly discover something huge, so you go and delete your character because you realize you've screwed him up so badly you might as well start over. i think i'm getting close to doing that with my character right now.. and he's been almost constantly training for nearly 3 months. my fear, and hope, is that i'm about where those spears are where it just begins to slightly curve up. which means i'm about to learn all this stuff about the game that will hopefully help me play alot smarter and less expensively. maybe will help me get killed a little less even! i can only hope.

another good example of how complicated this game can be is that it has built into the game a market tool that measures 4 different averages of the prices of each item in the game.


i'm not going to go into the details of how that thing works cause i've been using it for months and i still don't understand it. oh and the 10.00M, 20.00M, etc that you see on the left side of the graph stands for 10 million, 20 million, etc respectively. expensive? for a new player, yes. and by new i mean someone like me who has been playing less than about 6 months i guess. but i've heard other players talk about buying "cheap" ships like this one like it was pocket change. right now i feel rich having just 10 million in my wallet.

so yah, EVE-online. great game. you have to pay monthly until you can start earning enough in-game money to buy your next month of play time with ISK. (current cost is a little more than 300 million, i believe)

47 comments:

  1. That's intense. Maybe I'll give it a try after I get to a good stopping point in WOW

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  2. I've been wanting to play this game for a while...looks fun, but a very different learning curve.

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  3. @chris
    trust me, it's so much fun and worth it. if/when you do get into it i highly recommend listening to Eve-Radio in the background and staying in that chat channel most of the time. it can really teach you a lot

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  4. mhh...maybee i'm going to check it out

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  5. Not even gonna lie...Eve is the best i have played, and ive played more than a few.

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  6. ^ what is your user name? having just started i'm still trying to learn how to make money easily. what do you do to earn millions in just a few minutes?

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  7. I love the idea of eve but i hate the leveling professions system , it goes up in offline mode sux

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  8. I've played eve off and on for the last 6 years or so. i can never really stick with it though and normally get bored after a month

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  9. Heh, I've seen a chart like that before. But Dwarf Fortress was the black line :)

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  10. I've spent so much time playing EVE. Don't know if I go back to it.

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  11. ive always wanted to play eve but i dont really want to get back into another mmo lol.

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  12. I was never really into mmos, because the last time i played i got addicted for months.
    I MIGHT have to try this out, though ;)

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  13. Yeah that learning curve graphic is true. I tried eve for some time but I did the hassle of learning Anarchy-Online (wich is only a tad less complicated) and decided I didn't wanna go trough that whole ride again.

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  14. if eve is free id play it :P
    i cant devote time to an mmorpg though. id rather just pay upfront for a game and have it forever

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  15. ^ you can do the 14 day free trial to wet your appetite and decide on it. like i said in the blog, once you get to a certain point you just buy your next month of game time with in-game money

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  16. Wish i had the time to play an MMO, what i'd give to go back to high school and play WoW 8 hours a day.

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  17. Whoa, this game looks awesome! I used to be a professional WoW player/writer but I gave it up because I don't have the time. I played WoW for like 18 hours a day for 5 years. :( Sadly, those times are behind me.

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  18. I don't wanna try them since I'm affraid of gettign addicted!!

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  19. this looks sick. but i heard the leveling takes to damn long, looks like refined starship troopers

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  20. I used to love EVE - great post - following and supporting

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  21. tl;dr but I fucking lol'd at the graph

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  22. the game looks hard, but I don't have enough patience/time to play it.
    The learning curve is great!

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  23. well i only play wow so can't tell if the other games are better

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  24. Played wow, and this, and the best part about EVE is that you can JUST play an hour a day and have fun. In wow it takes 5 hours a day for a week (if you know the game) to reach max level, then you have to spend another 3000 hours getting items, then the next xpac comes out...

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  25. Wow, that game looks complicated. Might need to try it out though as am a bit intrigued.

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  26. i tried out eve, didn't like the real time based skilling

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  27. wow, looks pretty cool, now following.

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  28. ive actually never heard of this... checking it out

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  29. i need a new game to play. i might just check it out

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  30. That looks like a really cool game. I like MMORPGs, spaced based games, and strategy games. Looks like it's all three packed into one.

    I'm gonna follow your blog =)

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  31. Eve just looks way too daunting. I know it'll be a blast though.

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  32. With a learning curve like that, I'm too afraid to try it. Well maybe...

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  33. I've tried EVE, but yeah the learning curve and time required to play kinda turned me away.

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  34. Man, my old boss used to play all the time while we were at work. Now he's some big cheese at corporate >.> I never really got into it, I barly have any time :/

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  35. EVE is one of the most in-depth MMORPG's out there. The massive scaling of it is also impressive.

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  36. i have tried playing eve many times, i just cant get into it

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  37. Wow, that's kind of intense. With that steep of a learning curve, you'd think that they'd do something to make it easier.

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  38. I've always wanted to get into EVE Online, how's the gameplay like?

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  39. @randomlyMused
    the gameplay is the way you make it. there are several different roles that you can play. you can be an explorer and use the probes to hunt down wormholes and lost caches of rescources. you could be a miner/manufacturer and be a main source of ships, weapons, and ammo for the eve-universe. or you can play the mission (or quests if you are more familiar with the traditional mmo terms) and quickly build rep with the corporations ingame. last of all you can be a pirate or a bounty hunter and attack players that you deem worth killing. oh and yes, there are players with bounties on them. mostly pirates. so yah, it can be very fast or very slow paced

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  40. WoW is addicting enough for me. If I played Eve I don't think I'd every actually have any free time. Nice post though.

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  41. Damn this makes me want to play eve again!

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  42. I've heard that Eve is even more addictive and time-wasting than other mmorpgs like WOW.

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  43. not really. not in my opinion. in fact because that you can easily walk away from it half way through a payed month and still be making progress in the game, it takes away the whole, "every second i'm not playing i'm throwing money down the drain" feeling

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